Phew - Whole list of points there! I shall address them by number and hope we don't get out of step. Firstly though, thanks for the apology and for putting the record straight. Much appreciated. I am not sure if I can answer everything but here goes.

1. My argument only came from you saying I was an Islamophobe.

The next 2 I struggle with but
2. I don't go along with any diatribe against any whole class of people simply based on their colour, creed or culture.
3. Again, I don't go along with any 'vicious hatred' of any peoples as in 2 above.
What I am struggling with is that I don't think it is as open and shut as you state. I am giving both other parties the benefit of the doubt and do not believe they are as bad as you say. This probably gives rise to much of the disagreement.

4. See my comments on 2 and 3.
5. Don't understand the question
6. I believe I have made my disagreement clear. See 2 and 3.
7. (I think we are up to 'arguing with fog' in case anyone has lost track) Fine.
8. You are now repeating yourself. I have said what I disagree with earlier.
9. I agree. The only point I am making there is that they say they are representing their religion. They believe it. They have been lied to by someone. I don't know who that someone is.
10. Repeat of 9.
11. It is cultural bigotry to do so indeed. That does happen. I do not see it happening here.
12. Again I agree. Again I do not see that happening here.
13. I have said over and over that I disagree with your assessment of what is happening here on Mudcat. The fact that you chose to see that as disagreeing with you then so be it. Either I have not been clear enough, in which case I apologise, or you have misinterpreted what I have said, for which you have already apologised. Therefore we have no problems do we?
14. I do not agree with all that Keith and Michael say either. I do not believe that Islam is an inherently 'bad' faith. I think the article referred to by both you and Keith, as supporting both your views, is a good balanced piece saying much of what makes sense in both your interpretations and tempering it with a balanced view that all could learn from.

Now, I don't intend to go through all that again so, in a nutshell
- I don't believe Keith and Michael (and bobad?) are saying that all Moslems are bad. They have confirmed that this is the case.
- I agree with your points about racism and bigotry being wrong but think you are choosing the wrong battle here
- I have said this all along and don't understand why you believe I am saying something else

All clear now?

Cheers

DtG