The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #151204   Message #3528650
Posted By: GUEST,SJL
21-Jun-13 - 09:42 AM
Thread Name: Origins: 'The Bloody Great Wheel'
Subject: RE: Origins: 'The Bloody Great Wheel'
Lighter, you are right. It is most definitely by default. These kinds of songs fall into a man's domain. Until fairly recently, men and women have not been herded by Marxist intellectuals and the powers that be (according to their own agenda of divide and conquer)to accept false egalitarianism. And now, fueled by the mass media to share all the same social space. For ages beforehand, women and men each had their own society within their own gender and that was a good thing! Now you have a situation where, except for the proverbial night out with the women or the men, each is compelled to share all social space. This has greatly fomented the "war between the sexes," if not created it. Now women want to change men to suit themselves and vice-versa, and like I said, this has not been for the better. I am not talking about extreme situations such as wife-beating, it is the evolution society in general that has come to revile such behavior and men to their credit have actually been the ones to take the lead on elevating standards for male behavior towards women. Recall how the husband in "The Wife Wrapt in Wether's Skin" feared the consequences of offending the male kin of her family if he were to actually beat her. In a microcosm that is how it came about.

I had to laugh when I read Abby Sale's post up above as she was talking about mismatch between sex drives in an egalitarian way. I can tell you honestly that I have never met a woman (myself included) who wanted to have sex as much, or in as varied a way, as a man. Believe me, that is a great source of humor amongst women. Just this morning, on a news program, some woman was plugging her book about the importance of sleep with a woman commentator and a joke was made about how sleep is like sex to a man. That's how it really is ;-)This song is basically pornographic and the reference is the same as to pornography today. It caters to a male FANTASY of this voracious oversexed woman that doesn't exist (and btw, lesbians seldom look like the women in pornography ;-). I'm not even sure that most men would want it to go much beyond fantasy. Like you said, this is an outlet. This has always been the case. Nowadays we are all becoming confused about things that we all used to take for granted.

In reality, women's complaints about sex fall into a different department altogether. They have all to do with a lack of tenderness. I wrote those lyrics because I can never resist an opportunity to show how clever I am. Many times I pretend to be offended just to stir up some controversy. It's very devilish of me. But it is not because women tend to make up jokes and songs like that. Women might be offended by a song like this, but only mildly if she has a lick of wisdom.

Sooo, can't we just cuddle? ;-)))