Well, I am not arguing the point about MI5 which is the one in question so your summary above is incorrect. I cannot argue that one, I have no information one way or another so I am just watching the "Yes it is, no it isn't between you and Keith." I can argue about teh overall concept and have done so but I was referring to this specific issue.

Billy Bragg lyrics - Not milking anything. You said that you believed he sang "Which side are you on, boy?" I pointed out he did not. Pedantic maybe but still correct.

Genocide. I would not be here if it was not for WW2. I am half Polish if you did not know. My Father is from Białystok which housed a huge Jewish Ghetto and now, coincidentally, is home to 2000 Muslims, mainly Tartars. Coincidence because my Grandfather was a Cossack from the banks of the Kuban river who was victim of the Stalinist deportations. His ancestors would have killed both Tartar and Jew yet during WW2 he risked life and limb to assist the Jewish population.

BTW, The only reason I mention this is so you know a little more about me. No intention of saying I know more than anyone else. Just that I am aware and have experience of racial issues. Imagine what it was like to have a foreign name (It used to be Polakow) in a Salford School in the late 50s?

Now, unless you have any specifics you wish me to address, I believe all has been asked, answered, said and put to bed. Anything else will just be retreading old ground.

Cheers

DtG