Forhttp://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/headtohead/2013/06/201361091619207870.html anyone who wishes to take a time out from the bickering and mudslinging that this thread has become and actually listen to Irshad Manji, a reform Muslim and someone for whom I have much respect and admiration, in discussion/debate with the host of "Head to Head" Mehdi Hasan at the Oxford union.

And joining the discussion are: Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra who was elected as an assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain in 2008 and who is also the chair of the Inter Faith Relations Committee, and serves as an imam and scholar in Leicester; Halla Diyab, an award-winning Syrian writer, filmmaker, broadcaster and women's rights activist, and the author of controversial TV dramas such as Beautiful Maidens and Your Rightful Disposal; and Myriam Francois-Cerrah, an academic and journalist focusing on Islamic movements and political culture.

The discussion covers much of the same ground that is in contention on this thread. Give it a listen - you may learn something.

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