Larry... the best way to discuss an issue is to do just that... discuss the issue... not scream or squabble or whatever else... that really turns off people and more importantly - discussion.

who wants to go through a hundred or more posts of political bickering that has little or nothing much to do with understanding the facts of an issue??!!?? Political "facts" about legislation DOES NOT address the physical reality anymore than blasting back and forth about the role of the Pope and the Catholic Church explains a darn thing about astronomy and planetary orbits. It's an unpleasant distraction and the reason why gnu made the plea to take it elsewhere...

if I take a swing at the Conservative Right it is because their support of Creationism is dangerous to any hope of maintaining the integrity of scientific education in America. I say this as someone trained not just in more than just one field of science but who also obtained my teaching certification IN biology and the sciences. The Soviet Union lagged behind for decades because of their idological embrace of the Lemarckian theory of evolution... now there are some who want to even further off course.

Gulliver's Travels was not written for children... it was a satirical treatment of the idiocy going on in Great Britain at the time. And it still sums up political correctness and the glorification of irrational thinking. Just ducky, isn't it!