I like to get on with people Ian... You make a habit of sneering at others, name calling, and being generally dismissive of my friends.

If you were a real liberal, you would want to engage in debate, but you believe that debate on certain subjects only lends "respectability" to your opponent....you wish them to be silenced...you are the antithesis of liberalism, this is what makes you look small, not anything I might say.
Sanity and Jack are both as intelligent as you, perhaps more so, yet you continuously attempt to treat them as idiots because they dont always agree with you.

No one is perfect, but if you want to be respected as a fair minded individual, you should have a long hard look at your attitude to other members of this forum.