'If it says it in the Qur'an...then that's that.' Exactly Ed, and it's why I said in my previous post that one should assess these Holy Books with one's brain before engaging in the practices prescribed therein. There's a myriad examples from the Bible, it's not just Islam. Turning the other cheek, not being jealous, loving your enemies etc etc are just unnatural and I'm afraid I don't practise them at all. (Now the Archbish of Canterbury will be after me as well!)