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Thread #150459   Message #3540050
Posted By: Little Hawk
21-Jul-13 - 02:25 PM
Thread Name: BS: Reflections on Religion and Atheism
Subject: RE: BS: Reflections on Religion and Atheism
Shimrod - I don't think of God as "He". Somebody else might...fine with me if they do...but I don't.

"How do you know then that each God perceiver is perceiving the same God?"

I doubt that they are. Just as we each experience love in a unique way, I wouldn't expect people to all perceive God in the same way...nor do I assert that there IS only one way of perceiving God, love, or anything else that is not limited to the structures of physically observable phenomena.

"is God just a function of human consciousness?"

Maybe. Maybe not. I don't have the answer to that, but I've certainly wondered about it.

"Do cats, parrots, blue whales and ants perceive God too?"

They may. Again, I don't know. (If I were to make a guess, I'd say that they probably sense it in some instinctive way...) If I had a way of communicating with them about that, I could find out.

"If not, where did God reside before humans evolved?"

'Where'? I don't think of God as being 'somewhere'. I think of God as being everywhere, so 'where' doesn't even enter the equation.

"Where is He going to reside after we've rendered ourselves extinct in another couple of generations time?"

Like I said, 'where' doesn't even enter the equation. Infinity is everywhere (by definition)...it's also "everywhen", by the way....and it's nowhere (for purposes of observation)...because it cannot be limited to any one location...and you can't see it as a phenomenon unless you were able to limit it to one location and say where it begins and ends and where it is NOT some other phenomenon.

That's why we can't bring science to bear upon it. It's not separate. It can't be observed. We can talk about it...yes...but we can't get it in a lab or look at it through a telescope or see it on a radar screen, because it is NOT separate from anything that exists...including us.

I think that: It IS what we are. And it IS what everything else is. But at a conscious level rather than simply by default.