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Thread #151520   Message #3540082
Posted By: Jim Carroll
21-Jul-13 - 03:16 PM
Thread Name: Folklore/History: Irish Famine
Subject: RE: Folklore/History: Irish Famine
"You know you do Jim."
You are a liar Keith - I have never expressed any self-hatred in any shape or form (born in Liverpool as were my parents and grandparents)
I would ask you to provide proof of my hatred for English people (of which I am one) but I know damn well that there is as much chance of your responding as there is of your providing proof of your brain-dead claims of "distinguished historians" or your lying distortions about Tim Pat Coogan.
Having said that. please feel free to prove me wrong.
"You even called US "a deeply racist country."
No - I said that in my experience Britain was a deeply racist country and provided researched evidence to show that was the case - this was when you were describing "all male Pakistanis as being culturally implanted" which makes them paedophiles, you may remember, so we have no need to go any further than you to see exactly what Britain is able to produce in the form of racists.
I'm sure you noticed my emphasising the "US" there.
You wrote "you are destined to die still loathing us."   
I have pointed out on numerous occasions that I was born in Britain and my family goes back as living in Britain for four or five generations (not sure which).
You have persistently referred me as being a foreigner ("you and us") and have even on some occasions referred to me as being an "outsider".
I trust that every Anglo-Irishman or woman reading this and in a similar position as myself will note that as far as people like you are concerned, no matter how many centuries we have been and will continue to be living and bringing up our families in Britain, to racist scum like you we will always be "you and us" as far as you are concerned.
Guest:
"To state it was a deliberate policy of genocide is simply not supported by the facts."
Then you must explain the contempt shown by the authorities towards the million who starved to death and the many more who were forced to emigrate.
I would suggest you order your copy of Coogan's "'The Famine Plot' if you dounbt this;(The Book Depository has it at a reduced price, post free).
Coogan isn't the first to describe the Famine as "Ireland's Holocaust" or to use the term '"ethnic cleansing"
I haven't got my copy yet but I read a couple of chapters last week in Dublin - horrifyingly well-documented stuff!!!
Jim Carroll