""All this as an alternative to discussing WHY the procedures he supports are not working and what alternatives are available.""

Could it be because those procedures have worked an are working, to the extent that HIV, while not YET curable is, according to the medical profession, reduced to the level of a manageable condition which should cause no significant decrease in life expectancy?

You have made much of your concern for those Gay men who are at risk.

Yet, when asked whether your objections would cease if HIV were eradicated, youresponded that there are other reasons.

Why should anybody believe your protestations when you don't believe them yourself?

Don T.