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Posted By: Jim Carroll
01-Sep-13 - 03:39 PM
Thread Name: BS: Cameron defeat in parliament
Subject: RE: BS: Cameron defeat in parliament
I wonder if anybody here finds it as disturbing as I do that someone here chooses to lie about the effects of the chemicals sold to Assad by Britain.
Keith is more than aware of the properties of fluoride and their possible use in the production of chemical weapons – he has responded to the horrific fact on the Chemical Weapons" thread by suggesting that it is wrong to criticise "poor old Britain" for selling this shit to a murderous regime because "others do it".
I'm tempted to believe his support for this trade is down to his fanatical nationalism and is not in any way connected to the fact that throughout three threads – including the epic "Homs Horror" one, he has vociferously opposed military intervention in Assad's genocide – I don't reee...ly believe we have a Syrian 'Lord Haw-Haw in our midst, but dismissing chemicals as "harmless as toothpaste" amounts to the same thing.
The arms trade has had a major influence in the Arab Spring protests, leading, in some cases to opposing sides fighting each other using British arms – good for the Arms Industry, not so good for those struggling for democracy.
It was suggested that the small arms ammunition (sniper bullets) were used to shoot down some of the women and children in Homs – it would be devastating to find that the chemicals sold to Assad were used to produce the weapons used against the Syrians in their recent gas attacks.
It seems to me particularly despicable to pass off the major elements in the production of rat poison and Sarin gas, and a mind control agent used by the Nazis as "harmless" so that Britain can keep its head held high – a flag too far, so to speak .      
I have pasted the posting I made to the other thread this morning.
The blue-clickie links may not survive the transfer, but they are intact on the "chemical weapons in Syria" thread
Now, once again where DID I put my Imodium?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: chemical weapons in Syria
From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 04:05 AM

Incidentally, this is the "toothpaste" that Britain sold Assad
Jim Carroll

Fluoride is THE main ingredient in rat poison.
Fluoride is THE main ingredient in Sarin nerve gas.
Fluoride is THE main ingredient in Prozac.
Fluoride destroys the brain (accumulates the pineal gland), the bones, the organs and causes cancer.
Hitler and Stalin used it in concentration camps and gulags as mass control instrument to make the prisoners docile.
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010/10/31/

FLUORIDE, HYDROGEN FLUORIDE, AND FLUORINE
What are fluoride, hydrogen fluoride, and fluorine?
Fluorine, hydrogen fluoride, and fluorides are chemically related. Fluorine is a naturally occurring, pale yellow-green gas with a sharp odor. Il combines with hydrogen to make hydrogen fluoride, a colorless gas. Hydrogen fluoride dissolves in waier to form hydrofluoric acid.
Fluorine also combines with metals to make fluorides such as sodium fluoride and calcium fluoride, both while solids. Sodium fluoride dissolves easily in water, hut calcium fluoride does not.
Fluorine and hydrogen fluoride are used to make certain chemical compounds. Hydrofluoric acid is used for etching glass. Fluorides are used in making steel, chemicals, ceramics, lubricants, dyes, plastics and pesticides (for ants and roaches). Fluorides are often added to drinking water supplies and to a variety of dental products, including toothpaste and mouth rinses, to prevent dental cavities.

WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW. A CITIZENS GUID TO BIOLOGICAL, CHEMICAL AND NUCLEAR AGENTS & WEAPONS
What happens to fluoride, hydrogen fluoride, and fluorine when they enter the environment?
• Fluorine can not be destroyed in the environment, it can only change its form. Fluorine forms salts with minerals in soil, and doesn't evaporate back into air as a gas.
• Hydrogen fluoride gas will be absorbed by rain and into clouds and fog to form hydrofluoric acid, which will fall to the ground.
• Fluorides if released to the air from volcanoes and industry are carried by wind and rain to nearby water, soil, and food sources.
• Fluorides in water and soil will form strong associations with sediment or soil particles.
• Fluorides will accumulate in plants and animals. In animals, the fluoride accumulates primarily in the bones or shell rather than in edible meat.
http://books.google.ie/books?id=q6arweDfwjUC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=Weapons+sodium+fluoride&source=bl&ots=PZkKfXNEaf&sig=3MEi49Yq

FLUORIDE: A KNOWN CHEMICAL WEAPON
February 19,1999. ALCOA Fined $750,000 by Commerce Department For Illegal Chemical Shipments.
Potassium fluoride and sodium fluoride are controlled because they can be used to make chemical weapons. These chemicals were added to the Department's control list in March 1991, but ALCOA's export compliance program failed to recognize and incorporate the change. There was no indication that in this case the chemicals were used for weapons purposes.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/pesticides/effects.chem.weapon.precurs.htm

Also:
http://havacuppahemlock1.blogspot.ie/2013/01/fluoride-known-chemical-weapon.html

http://rense.com/general79/hd3.htm

http://www.quintessentialpublications.com/tracyrtwyman/?p=2271