Phew! Thank Clapton for that. Urban dictionary is fine by me. For a minute there I thought you were going to invoke that Webster bloke. This side of the pond, we were taught in school that due to inaccuracies, lack of original research carrying on through the editions etc that Webster is testament to there being no reliable American English dictionary.

There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding going back to the op of the op as it were.   I for one am well aware of de Waal using the word "some" when talking of actions and thoughts of atheists. What is irritating about such a stance is that it is about as relevant a "some ginger haired people" as a debating point. Sure there are such people who rally against organised religions and even some who feel that perpetuation of any superstition is ultimately damaging to society, but to group them as atheist as a label signifying their stance is odd to say the least.



Anyway back to reality.   I have to find the direction of Knott End on a compass and get the door mat so if you will excuse me.