Interesting how one can talk about "them" "they" etc for dozens of withering posts on various threads then have the bare arsed cheek to say there is no such thing.

Interestingly you are right. Lots of people had to spell it out to you though before it became your own stance at last. Must have been that barbecued donkey on the road to Damascus.

Whalley Abbey is worth a punt if you are in the area. The annual haj to Knott End may be a good diversion en route. As someone who comes from Creswell originally, I would ask you to ensure your satnav gets specific instructions as Whalley Common near my family tree fodder is about 120 miles out. ...