The couple running that pre-Getaway music jam et al - I would have to give them a pass. A more abusive and wacko couple I never experienced before that ill-fated Bob B. obit thread that ran earlier this year that I will not name fully or link to. The mister was positively batshit crazy and wildly abusive. Anyone who can fly off the handle like that needs to be given a wide berth, in my opinion. You take it easy there, Amos, and maybe don't mention that you know who I am.