Actually, if we ignore all the swearing and abuse earlier on, it's turned into quite a good discussion.
I anyone doesn't like the subject which has evolved from Tia's departure, why open the thread and start grumbling?

These threads are of great interest to the membership, earlier ones ran into thousands of posts.....the facts of the issue have become pretty obvious to most, and because of the political bias of this particular group not so many want to put in their tuppence worth any more.

Still the serious problems remain, as our legislators try to cover the footprints.