Nobody is trying to say that a thread remains the property of its OP, Jim. But it is those who demand its extension or deflection into other aspects of its topic who are 'manipulating'. I still don't see how you, an arch drifter and *manipulator* into your own political obsessions of any thread you infiltrate, can accuse the thread's originator of 'manipulation'. Nobody is 'manipulating' but your obsessive pontifical pigheaded doctrinaire self, for heavens sake. Stop being so thick & evasive. You do yourself scant credit with these perpetual dishonest evasions and undeserved denunciations.

~M~