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Thread #152552   Message #3568171
Posted By: YorkshireYankee
18-Oct-13 - 11:06 PM
Thread Name: Folklore-Origin: I'll go to the foot of our stairs
Subject: Folklore: Origin:I'll go to the foot of our stairs
An expression I've heard more than once (in the Sheffield area) is "Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs!" - as an expression of surprise/amazement.

From the moment I first heard it, I was curious about its derivation.

(Before you ask, I've done a Mudcat search - and a Google search...)

This article (found at: http://www.spanish-country-villa.com/stairs/) includes all of the theories I've encountered thus far:

...there is an expression in the British panoply of oddities that is both obscure and worthy of some debate.

Claims for the geographical origin of the phrase can only be narrowed down as far as the West Midlands and include Manchester and the Black Country …at the same time as crediting its later (and wider) use in Yorkshire.

One authority has it that the phrase could have started in complete obscurity …say just one family, it spread into the community and then common use.

I have personal experience of a phrase of similar obscurity …my ex-wife's mother would often make ribald references to the size of some of the more intimate parts of a persons body as "enough to wallop a dog out of a tripe shop." To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a specialist shop that sells mainly tripe (and that is only the beginning of the incongruities in such a short phrase).

One explanation I have come upon has more to do with symbolic verbal imagery than anything else. To "go to the foot of the stairs and touch the newel post" (the post at the bottom end of the banisters) was symbolic of beginning one's rite of passage or ascendancy into maturity and adulthood. To find yourself placed back at the 'foot of the stairs' was to be so astonished that you felt as a child may in the face of overwhelming news or information. As explanations go, it has a faint ring of plausibility about it, but seems a little esoteric

Alternatively, a more prosaic explanations may apply such as the fact that in old slum houses in Manchester (and probably other places), it was common for there to be the entrance to a small cellar at the bottom of the stairs. This was normally a dark and dank place, sometimes used for storing coal. It was also sometimes used as a "sin bin" for naughty children.

So "I'll go to the foot of our stairs" may have originated as an exclamation, because "the foot of the stairs" was the entrance to the darkest and dankest place in the house. This would make it similar to saying "Well, I'll be damned" (an exclamation that is based on something unpleasant).

It's equally possible that this old expression of surprise or amazement could have meant that the short walk to the place mentioned would allow the speaker to recover equanimity. Or perhaps it meant it was time to give up and go to bed!


Any other knowledge/suggestions?