The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #152797   Message #3576096
Posted By: Bill D
15-Nov-13 - 09:31 PM
Thread Name: BS: Nasty Stuff Out, Pope/Manning/others
Subject: RE: BS: Nasty Stuff Out, Pope/Manning/others
No... I do NOT believe you are "not sincere in my opinions regarding the health risks associated with male homosexuality".

That is mischaracterizing what I and others have said... and almost everyone who debates with you agrees that there are basic risks that need to be addressed in the issue. What is usually not too clear is what you view as the overall significance of such health risks as exist and why you dwell on MM relations when heterosexual contacts are often as guilty these days. (Especially in Africa)

Now you say directly it "...proves that some degree of compulsion is required..." Ah... and do you also suggest a fair way that "some" compulsion could be applied? Just how would an open society find and legislate a reasonable way to stop careless sexuality in ANY group? ANYONE would agree that education/information and medical advice and publicity are useful tools... but compulsion? ... segregation? Jail? Cameras in bedrooms? The mind boggles.
Perhaps "Destruction of the Capitalist system" is part of your plan? Would a Socialist system theoretically be free to impose "compulsion"? How far do you think THAT would go before you offend almost everyone? Capitalism has its flaws, but socialism's overlay of compulsion almost always requires military and secret police which is popular only with those doing the compelling.

It is my observation that very few who advocate such systems have a clear vision of the practical workings of their ideas. (*I* advocate a system of "enlightened despotism" ... with someone *I* approve of as Despot, of course, because *I* have my opinions of what enlightenment entails.) I have many ideas of what I or any good, decent despot should do... but I can barely imagine HOW to put them into practice..(like.. giving every 13 year old girl an implant which randomly contains a contraceptive. This is to reduce the over-population of the planet. Do YOU see all the intrinsic problems with making this work? I do.. and it's next to impossible. So is "compulsion" in sexuality.

Your turn....