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Thread #152785   Message #3576665
Posted By: Jim Carroll
18-Nov-13 - 05:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: Armistice Day (debate)
Subject: RE: BS: Armistice Day (debate)
"It proves me right and you wrong."
It proves nothing other than there is a consensus that the war was an Imperialist dispute over territories, you stupid little man.
That is all anybody has been saying here, other than yourself, who has produced a few cut-'n-pastes to show that it was a patriotic war - IT WAS A DISPUTE OVER EMPIRE.
Nowhere has anybody disputed Germany's role in attacking Belgium - a recorded fact, but it was a war for power and territory and it was generated by jingoistic propaganda.
Barber's article makes that clear, as does every single modern article on the First World War.
Your argument that those who died were fired with enthusiasm for that cause doesn't feature - you made that up.
Your argument that those who returned still supported that cause, doesn't even feature in any of the references - you made that up.
You have done exactly what Musket described, trawled for snippets to make your jingoistic case.
The causes of the war have long been a matter of history
Attempting to lay blame for the war has long been abandoned as revisionist jingoism.
The treatment of soldiers who fought in the war has been long established and indisputable.
The high-pressure methods used to recruit those soldiers is as old as war itself, as is the disillusionment with the military leaders, politicians and money-men who promote these wars.
World War One does not even have the respectability of the Second World War in being a war for freedom - it was purely an Imperial war for territory between now extinct dinosaurs.
Jim Carroll