Yes Doug, don't apologize for something that sends as clear a message as this thread does. Espscially at this thime of year. If I drove to a party I will drink nothing but soft drinks, I can be a designated driver, hovewer if I was driven to the party as I was last night, I can be a designated drunk! (as I almost was!)

Serious note time...When my kids were growing up there lived a few houses down a mother and her two sons. The older of the two, Denny, was a very wonderful kid. Always happy and cheerful. Many's the time I would come home from work and Denny would be here, (he spent more time at my house than at his) and my day of drudgery would fall behind me because of his silly antics. When he turned 16, he got a job as a bagger in a local grocery store. Most nights he would stop by our house to say hi to the kids and even sometimes come and ask me some advice since there was no father in his life. We talked a lot. One night around 8PM, we heard sirens not far from our house. We thought nothing of it becasue we hear them a lot living not far from a major thoroughfare. Denny was to be at our house after he got off from work. Denny didn't show up and I got a feeling of dread....sure enough, the sirens were sounding for him! He had been hit by a drunk driver who left the scene. The following day he was declared brain dead and life support was removed. The guy eventually turned himself in, but what little he got will never bring back a vibrant youg lad like Denny.

Please, enjoy the Holidays, but be careful!