Oh good grief. Now we have the against gods will and against nature nonsense. Which gods will is it against, Pete? Yours I suppose. It doesn't seem to be against Joe's or that of countless other religious people. And how can anything that happens naturally be against nature? Or is it against nature in the same way that priest are supposed to be celibate?

I have had a bellyful of this tripe. Any more and it will spoil my Christmas celebrations. Yes, I do celebrate Christmas. And any other excuse for a good time.

DtG