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Thread #22672   Message #3589761
Posted By: GUEST
07-Jan-14 - 11:16 AM
Thread Name: Why did Dylan dis Phil Ochs?
Subject: RE: Why did Dylan dis Phil Ochs?
I suggest removing the posts of tHe tRaNs1eNt. They mar what was an otherwise great 14 year discussion!

In my opinion, any rivalry between the two was blown out of proportion, but it's interesting to speculate on. Both Dylan and Ochs were young, talented and unstable to some degree. I'm sure there was mutual respect.

Dylan's body of work is more impressive than Ochs', but Ochs is a good candidate for the best 60's Village songwriter other than Dylan. This says a lot. I can't think of a better, more universal war protest song (from anyone) than "I Ain't Marching Anymore." The electric version should have been a hit. I mean, just because the Beatles were the best British Invasion band, does that mean we shouldn't listen to the Kinks? Of course not. The same comparison could be made between Dylan and Ochs.

It was Ochs who was making better music in 1970 despite almost complete commercial indifference. This wasn't the peak of Ochs' career, but "Greatest Hits" at least had genuine feeling. At its worst, Dylan's 1970 material was routine.