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Thread #133984   Message #3589997
Posted By: Jim Carroll
08-Jan-14 - 08:11 AM
Thread Name: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
Subject: RE: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
"Professor Gary Sheffield is one of Britain's foremost military historians"
Gary Sheffield, whatever his qualifications, in no way backs your overall claims on the war
He has written that the present view of the history of the war needs to be changed indicating that he believes the commonly held view among historians is wrong
He sets up his own straw dog by claiming that the view of war is simplistic - no historian anywhere is making any such statement - in fact they have all stressed that it is far from simple and has long moved on from the "Archduke Ferdinand" and "gallant little Belgium" stage.
He concedes in the piece you have pasted that it was a struggle between conflicting Empires.
I suggest you go and read what you have pasted rather than us having to keep reminding you exactly what he did say - I certainly intend to continue doing so.
Against the advice of ALL MODERN HISTORIANS Sheffield attempts to apportion direct blame for the war.
Most modern historians warn against doing so, and point out that the blame lies with all participants, though more with some than with others.
Sheffield is one historian among many and his own statement underlines that fact.
Your other star witness - the scabloid journalist, Max Miller, or whatever his name is, seems to have disappeared from the scene - out of his depth among all those real historians I suppose.
You continue to display your contempt for the veterans of World War One by refusing to discuss what happened to them when they returned from having made their sacrifice - and by attempting to make such discussion 'out of bounds' by calling it 'thread drift' - as you always do when you're in trouble.
Never mind, I will continue to enjoy drawing attention to to your contempt whenever I find myself with a free moment.
I'll allow you to get back to your putting forward a version of the events of World War One which actually became out of date in 1916, when the powers-that-be abandoned their recruiting campaign as a total failure, and introduced compulsory conscription.
Jim Carroll
PS I wonder if Gary Sheffield ever interviewed a World War One veteran, and whether he would very have described one as "a liar" as you have?
I doubt it somehow - he looks to be a nice man, in spite of his establishment views.