Jim: I can't see where anyone is denying that there has been, and continues to be, much iniquitous behaviour by people of the Christian faith, many often professionally connected with it as priesthood &c. But it is still a bit of unacceptable 'wotaboutery' to suggest, as you appear to do, that because some priests have persecuted [in a much more minor sense than the true persecution ref'd in the title & main topic of this thread], with uncongenial sexual advances or other forms of advantage-taking, hangers-on & acolytes of inferior status to theirs such as altar boys & Swiss Guards, well then, never mind what is happening to the Church in Saudi or Yemen or Malaysia or Egypt or wherever. A Swiss Guard says that some bishops & cardinals made passes on him: so if they are killing Xtns just for being Xtns in Egypt, well that's all right then.

I know you will say you are not defending the latter by citing the former; in which case, what exactly is your point, then? You, or one on your side of the matter if it wasn't you personally, rather oddly suggested to Keith that, if he objected to this peculiar 'wotabout' drift, he could OP a new thread: which was a bit rich as he had OP'd this one anyhow & it was you lot that had hijacked it. So, if you want to go on about bishops buggering choirboys -- which isn't what this thread is about, for all your saying -- why don't YOU start one to moan on about it then?

Oh, what's the use? I know your mind's made up and you're not listening...

~M~