Never noticed that Greek philosophers came from Brazil. You live and learn..

Tell you what Michael, setting out to be a weird bugger and managing it without the use of props are two different things. See Keith for details.

Don't get confused by anything I say. I'm just a liar according to Keith A Hole of Hertford. It's a nice place to be, because I can call him a trumped up staunch bigot of an apologist for the more odious fringe of Christianity, and he can't complain. After all, he reckons it isn't true by default, hence nothing to be insulted by.

Ya boo! Smelly Keith The God Botherer naa naa na naa na!