Oy Co co opted Messiah.

I was a miner and the only thing I brought to my knees was myself on a Saturday night in Worksop Miners Welfare.....

Surgeons may disagree between themselves, but as they are proper trained professionals, it would be folly to disagree with their suggestions, although you might disagree with the need.

Historians are people who call themselves historians. They might teach or study history, but there is no competence criteria, as the subject is too broad and subjective. The ability to look at something and comment on what you conclude from it is sufficient. Hence newspaper hacks and politicians use the term and nobody kicks up a fuss.

However, putting them on a pedestal of real experts is where Keith's naive view of the world takes a tumble. The only difference between Keith and them, or me and them for that matter is that they have considered a bit more evidence and we have to separate the evidence they present from their opinion of it. Once we do that, we too can hold a view that is valid.

Unless you struggle with the thought process, eh Keith?