Grr. Approved by and binned by, of course.

"many believed..." yes, guest, that is precisely my point! many believe that everything came about by itself ,without any observable evidence ,and many believe that an evolutionary pathway was facilitated by mutations, and natural selection and such natural causes, beyond the limits of each kind [phyla?]set by its genetic make up.. most scientists believe in evolution, because most scientists believe in evolution. of course , if you can demonstrate that abiogenesis happened, or that generally loss of information mutations somehow added enough , if any, information to produce microbes to men .....then I have no argument.

Well, you see, pete, "many believe" is two things. First, weasel words of the highest order. Second, all lies. Science has nothing to do with belief. Everything to do with evidence. No point boring the forum yet again with what is and what isn't evidence. You don't listen anyway. And a small list of things you don't understand (I do seem to have mentioned this before but you seem determined to continue to enjoy life in the remedial class): abiogenesis; phyla; "set by its genetic make up" [sic]; "information". One could go on but the match is coming up and I must pour meself a glass of Vina Sol...