Just a quick note before I rush madly off to the big city. Bertrand Russell wrote that people would rather die by the latest means than live by an old fashioned method. He was writing about the atomic bomb but you know people.

Back into the closet with that biker chick Jon, if you're still confused.

I believe you can still say a prayer at the start of a prayer meeting so lighten up and have fun guys while we look into the constitutionality. I quite sure Bertrand Russell tried to bring up his daughter properly but she decided to become a Christian missionary.

I still think you're special casing your true conservatives, Troll. You seem to be confusing the conservative ideal with practical, sniveling, complaining, self-pitying, undertaxed, Americans. Reminds me of Withold Gombrovicz referring to socialists with in-door toilets. Would a true conservative have in-door toilets or would he rely on long squatting traditions?

I have seen more distorted British war propaganda films portraying conservative leaders than I've seen real right wing conservatives jumping over cliffs, I must admit with some regret. If they were to jump off cliffs, even wearing harnesses, they'd probably shit their pants just like the rest of us.