People who abuse science for their ends are as bad as people who abuse religion for their ends.

Whether it is the looting of West Asia during the Crusades "in the name of God" or Hitler killing off millions in the name of "Eugenics" The "bad" things are the crimes committed. The excuses for the crimes are incidental.

I'm not trying to police the Mudcat. I am simply asking a few people to follow the same rules that I am following. I am asking them to follow rules clearly posted in the terms of membership by Max. I am not asking this of people who only fight with others and leave me out of their battles.

I am certainly not trying to police you. You are debating in a respectful manner. I am not willing do defend positions which I never took. I pointed out that no one took that position, you responded calmly and graciously. No policing was done. Only calm rational discussion. No name calling, no anger. Just the way it should be.