It's a matter of numbers. Songwronger quotes from a somewhat dubious source, the usuals show up to put him in his place and then we have further exposed the dubious source to the internet. Think of it this way: if no one rises to the bait, the fisherman will go fish elsewhere.

Next Songwronger thread that is SSDD, ignore! You'll find the trolls in the first ten posts.

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A minimum wage has to be a wage one can live on. It also assumes that jobs will be full-time. A tad over $10/hr may or may not be a living wage depending on where one lives and how many people depend on that wage. Obama received mixed reviews, but more importantly, it seems obvious that people have lost faith in their political leadership. Read the numbers on how many people watched the SotU address.