Hi all. Sad enough to have cached this thread and read it in a bar earlier.

I'll take you up on that beer Jack, my French hosts understand every bit of alcohol except beer.

Sorry though, our friend pete has indeed spoke of brainwashing children in the YEC thread and that can never be brushed under the carpet. I have no issue with him believing it anymore than my mate who reckons the moon landings were faked or that Sean Bean bloke who thinks Sheffield United are a football team.

But we can see from the radicalisation of religions in all sectors, society is now suffering rather than being enriched by religion. When I was a lad, churches had Wesley hymns, King James thee & thou and no fuss. I went to a christening last year where they sang silly chants to drums. & guitar and something called the peace where strangers invade your space and hug you.

Alright for Johnny ruddy Foreigner, but not very British what?

Ignorant peasants in Pakistan speak of death for cartoons and jokes and criminals support the notion. American far right Christians murder surgeons and nurses. Wars carry on bastardising their interpretation of love. Priests and their mates bugger children with impunity. Church leaders talk of loving gay people but accept God hates them.

No. If it's all the same to you, being nice to them only encourages the buggers.