A friendly tip to Musket.. One of the reasons that I quote the things I am responding to is so that a misread on my part doesn't lead me to an error that makes me look like a donkey.

>>"re jack to bill....dawkins is not a working scientist either..he,s a member of an evolutionist propaganda group!"<<

>>"pete says, admittedly tongue in cheek that Darwin isn't a working scientist. Correct, he is dead. Just like your God. He requires faith in order to exist. Ergo he doesn't. "<<

pete, It might not surprise you that I partly agree with you on Dawkins He is not a working scientist. But I would not say "an evolutionist propaganda group" I would say an anti-religion propaganda group. And since he is the founder and makes a good deal of money on his speaking and books I would say, only partly tongue in cheek he is an anti-religion entrepreneur.

I think that I can say with confidence that when Dawkins says in effect that religious schooling is child abuse, Bill does not give that extra credence because it comes from a former biologist. Just as Bill is warning us not to take word of your guy because he used to be a chemist.

A true "creation scientist" would be examining the data that we have and comparing it to the "Scientific theory" that the world was created in six days. Considering that according to the story "days" as we scientifically know them did not exist until the fourth day, the "Scientific theory" of Biblical Creation cannot exist.

Its nonsense pete, all nonsense. Like Adam being created "fully formed out of clay. Genetically we are not separate and above the animals. If God formed man in his own image then 98% of God's DNA is the same as that of a chimp. People used to think that other races of men were inferior to others. Scientists has found that there is far more variation among members of one race than between races.

The DNA plan that made you shares a vast amount of information with that of a mouse. That's why we can do medical experiments on mice. You share more with a pig that's why a pig's heart can work in a human body. You share even more with a chimp. That is why David Cameron can be your Prime Minister. .... Just kidding... but some Chimps can do sign language. You can try to believe that Adam was formed from clay and Eve from his rib. But there is zero scientific evidence to support that. The scientific evidence indicates that all life on this planet is interrelated. The pattern for male female interaction for reproduction existed long before people did. You can go and read what your former chemist has to say about our very genes pointing to increasing complexity over a very long time but if you honestly look at all the evidence, your only logical play is, like you did with the sun and Adam is to say that God Created everything to appear as if the Universe's history is much much older than the Bible says it is. So to say that every thing is as it says in the Bible and not as scientist say it is you are calling God a liar. Who, like a hypocritical parent is telling us, his children, "Don't believe what you see with your eyes, believe what I say in this book."

You may believe in a God like that. I do not.