It isn't every day I get confused by a snail, although I had escargot as a starter the other night.

Are you saying Steve Shaw is setting up a religion with Darwin as the bloke with a large grey beard?

Taking the name of a real person in vain isn't nice. Taking the name of a fantasy figure in vain isn't nice either but only insomuch as upsetting the feelings of someone with a delusion. pete makes up for his embarrassment regarding his beliefs by putting reality on a similar pedestal. That seems to me to be perfectly clear in terms of Steve's comment. Nothing wrong whatsoever on what he said, and your extrapolation can only be the slime you guys leave in your path

If we have to go through life figuring out how not to upset people who by their very nature are being irrational, we won't have time to drink beer.

And that, if nobody noticed, is the real holy grail.