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Thread #153615   Message #3599205
Posted By: Lighter
07-Feb-14 - 12:25 PM
Thread Name: BS: Nye v Ham SMACKDOWN!!!! Tonite!!!!
Subject: RE: BS: Nye v Ham SMACKDOWN!!!! Tonite!!!!
How could *any* evidence be "inconsistent with creationism"?

The second basic premise of creationism is that some scientific laws were different before the Flood than they are now. So if physics can only describe accurately what astronomers see today, of course it's all consistent.

Ham explained, for example, that before the receding of the Flood, all animals were vegetarians. (That's one reason they didn't each other on the Ark.)

Nye replied that lions and tigers (both of which Ham acknowledged have evolved from the pair of proto-cats on the Ark) have sharp teeth and fangs obviously meant for tearing flesh. Ham was ready with the observation that fruit bats have terrifically sharp teeth too, which tear apart the fruit that makes up their entire diet.

So the sharp teeth of lions and tigers are holdovers from the time of vegetarian proto-cats.

Nye never thought to ask, "How do you know? Were you there?"

Of course, if he had, Ham could have said "Well, no, I wasn't there; but neither were you. All I'm saying is that creationism explains the world every bit as well as 'mainstream science,' Therefore it should be taught in schools and universities as the reasonable alternative. Furthermore, unlike mainstream science, creationism acknowledges what has been obvious to the greatest scientists in history - Isaac Newton, for example, not to mention the three or four outstanding living scientists we've just seen on video; namely, that life cannot come from dead matter, that consciousness cannot come from even living matter, and that atoms cannot come from nothing. These things were created by the will of God."

When someone asked Nye how *he* explained such things as consciousness and existence, he got wide-eyed and said (more or less), "I just don't know! Science is *filled* with wonderful mysteries like that, and part of the wonder of science is the endless searching, searching, blah blah blah blah."

In other words, Ham knows the answer (Divine Creation) and Nye admits he hasn't the foggiest (Mainstream Science).

Point: Ham.