You don't need religion to be a contributing moral member of society. As is obvious around here, you don't need religion to be bigoted either.

Jack, I think you are reading too deep into what the pastor is saying. If his waters were running deep, he should know better as the words in a superficial sense feed the crass stupidity most of us read.   In any case, if he said that without the resurrection being real, there is no point us being here, I would say that er.. we are here. Most of the humans on this planet haven't heard of any resurrection, and 99.999999999% of all other creatures haven't either.

Probably says more about the resurrection fable than why we are here.

I remain very hopeful for society, and see huge benefits with each generation. Yes, our awareness of what is wrong leads to a sense of things going wrong, but that is because as less people use a superstition to judge, we see issues on other shores as issues for people like us, rather than "heathens."

Long term that is good. What isn't good is getting there. But the marginalisation of superstition and the takeup of objective faith where people need it conspire to make society a better place.

Just got to ignore those with placards outside football grounds telling us we are sinners.   Cheeky buggers.....