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Thread #153464   Message #3601725
Posted By: Bill D
15-Feb-14 - 10:21 AM
Thread Name: BS: Darwin's Witnesses
Subject: RE: BS: Darwin's Witnesses
Pete: "...this is basically your approach bill, together with inferring that creationists only have the biblical text to support their position, when you know that there are a lot of scientific arguments as well.
we also disagree on whether evolutionism is a doctrine of atheistic faith."


I repeat, Pete... and I may repeat 27 MORE times. Arguments for the Biblical version of events, in so far as they simply seek to justify a **belief** are NOT actual science...(or rather, someone's **interpretation** of one translation of Biblical stories which cannot be verified AS actual events).

How can I put it? If a thousand scientists perform all sort of tests and compare results and agree that the universe is about 14 billion years old and that the earth is about 4 billion years old.... what does it mean for a few guys with science training & backgrounds to look at the same tests, data & evidence and pronounce that:
"these conclusions do not agree with what my preacher and the Creation.com website says is the REAL age of things, so all those measurements must be in error, and we will RE-interpret the results until we get answers that agree with Bishop Ussher and various others who read the Bible and counted the generations since Adam & Eve!"


Pete: I repeat... when they demand that science MUST agree with the Bible, they are simply using the name science. They are not following the rock-bottom, necessary, rules OF the scientific method.

Pete: I repeat again: If you wish to assert that God started it all, I can only shrug. I can't prove otherwise. But if these little brains we have are part of what 'God' gave us, then proper use of them shows us HOW it all proceeded after God gave it all a push! We are still learning the details, but counting generations listed in Genesis is NOT a scientific way of establishing a basic age of the Earth!

(Ummm... I can't even be sure who my great-great-great grandfather was. No one has ever explained who wrote down & kept track of those hundreds of names in Genesis...very few people could even write back then! )