"I don't know if you are being purposely thick or you really do lack the power of thought. Either way, let me explain. Again. It has nothing to do with health statistics. You are stereotyping when you say that male homosexuals are promiscuous. When you add that to your ludicrous explanation of perverted we begin to see the bigoted views that you so thinly disguise as 'care'."

I'm with you on that Dave, but you are wasting your time talking to a hard wired homophobe who has already stated that, even if there were no health risk to homosexuality, there are "other issues".

To that bigotry he adds his indifference to female homosexuality and his deep rooted opposition to a measure which would reduce promiscuity among gay men, namely marriage.

Knowing, as he undoubtedly does, that sex plays a comparatively small part in heterosexual marriage relationships, he nonetheless believes that any homosexual relationship is one hundred percent about sex.

You will note also that he refers to "behavioural" lifestyle, in the hope that, if he repeats it often enough, it will miraculously become true.

As the Hassidic Jew at the Wailing Wall said, when asked how it made him feel "I feel like I'm talking to the bloody wall".

That's what you get talking to Ake.

The difference between him and a Rotweiler is that if you wait long enough the dog will let go.