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Thread #153464   Message #3604794
Posted By: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
25-Feb-14 - 02:02 PM
Thread Name: BS: Darwin's Witnesses
Subject: RE: BS: Darwin's Witnesses
typo...slip...yes it should have been line.

gnome- I too will remain with what I see as logical, and squares with my worldview, [ just as you do ]until experimentation proves it wrong.
you say you will stay with evolutionism till experiments prove it wrong.
guess what....they already have ! biogenesis , organisms only observed to reproduce according to, and within the limits of their kind ,failure of attempts to produce life from non life.    the general observation that a sufficient cause is required for creation, despite bill dismissing it with a shrug. I am sure there are other things as well but that will do.
perhaps actual scientist can cite experiments [observable, repeatable] that validate evolutionism....and stop insulting scientists that question Darwin dogma!

bill- I will not let your assertion that evolutionism is science and creation isn't go unchallenged. both beliefs seek to claim science as validation. it is you who are unfairly twisting the use of words.
Darwin dogma encompasses abiogenesis, microbes to man, among other things, which are presented as fact but lacking evidence.
these are things that an atheist must believe because of an a priori commitment to naturalistic causes, whatever the evidence.
this is why I say it is a religious belief, ie a negative position respecting an intelligent first cause. these are positions held by faith, just as mine is ,in trusting the bible.

no shimrod, I cant give numbers, but there is a site listing Darwin doubters, or you could look up the altburg symposium [ think that's right], either way there is more dissent , I think, than you think.