I quoted the figures. I said you can see them on the sites I gave. As Jack rightly points out, statistics are just that, and I have also spoke of the factors other than historical extrapolation those charged with planning and delivering healthcare services take into account.

What in the name of all that is holier than thou is difficult about that?

You said a few days ago that I was quoting wrong figures! I quoted the same as you, and when you insisted that we go on the internet to get our figures (silly naive thought) I did have a quick look to see if NAT were up to date with the ones I supplied, and they are.

If I am making them up, then shame on you for repeating them, and shame on NAT for publishing them. Find a few more non existent arms length bodies are call them official. That's what you usually do before reverting to calling everyone liars. At least by doing that, you have reached the end of objectivity and de facto giving up the crusade of the moment.

Fight the good fight, with all thy might!
Christ is thy strength, and Christ thy right!

Honestly. Keep going, let everyone else see how foolish you are. No, really, please do! It isn't difficult. Just keep going.

So... Using the figures I have provided above, tell me about this gay epidemic you and your mate are so concerned about? Have you been reading American Christian Right websites again? I told you about that and where it will get you...