Well said, Bill D. But we both know that, whatever we tell him, pete will go on persistently, blindly and/or wilfully confusing 'belief' and 'evidence'. For example, he insists on BELIEVING that 'all came from something via someone' but the only evidence that he can present is that 'it-says-so-in-the-Bible'. He also refuses to even think about the further implications of his beliefs e.g. if God created everything, where did he get the materials and where did He come from and who created HIM from what materials? All that he can come up with is that he BELIEVES that God is ineffable.