Joe. Who are the doctrine filled people who claim science as a certainty?

Perhaps if you see them, you might inform them of Mudcat where science is discussed as best knowledge till proved otherwise.

Not an easy concept for those who think the bible is historical fact, but the rest of us seem to have a grasp of the scientific PROCESS as opposed to religious RESULT.

When you say "they" have beliefs, you may be correct, but the mental leap to belief in "science" is to truly misunderstand people. We have many people learned in branches of science on these threads including a smattering of relevant PhDs.

Try not to prejudge people who refuse to let superstition interfere with reality. Religion as a comfort is fine when applied to the minds of some humans. But the mass involved in the brains of religious humans is about as close to zero as you can measure when putting it up to the universe. Even if you include all the bricks in Guildford Cathedral.