Well, Noreen, just look back at some of the comments over many threads coming from the homophobes, misogynists, religious bigots, creationists, evolution-deniers, racists, misrepresenters and liars. I don't mind naming names, so the Jacks, the petes, the Keiths, the bobads, the Akes, the Guffers and one or two others who I may have forgotten. Oh yes, they can sound very pleasant. Very disarming at times. Very reasonable, on the surface. But what you seem to be saying is that you can say what you like as long as you don't say it "unpleasantly". Well I don't agree with that. These people who are being given free rein to spout their unbalanced, illiberal and prejudiced notions are the people who really drag this place down. Just a few of us are not able to tolerate that and we speak out and we don't feel like being especially diplomatic towards people who are taking advantage of your good nature. We see Bill, Gawd bless 'im, being very diplomatic towards pete and pete taking the piss in return, for example. There are times when calling a spade a spade is a bloody good thing. If it's an intelligent debate you want (so do I), you won't get it by giving these nasty people all the rope in the world. You need to consider slightly more carefully exactly what it is you're asking for.