If you want an example of decent discussion, go to the "BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you.. " thread and begin reading with Joe Offer's post of 03 April at 04:19 AM. Note how Joe, for,the most part, responds with respect and attempts to keep the discussion on the issues at hand. He does it despite the provocations laid out. If you want an example of decent discussion, go to the "BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you.. " thread and begin reading with Joe Offer's post of 03 April at 04:19 AM. Note how Joe, for,the most part, responds with respect and attempts to keep the discussion on the issues at hand. He does it despite the provocations laid out. Note how certain provocateurs continue to try and make it about people instead of ideas. I agree with Joe, for example, about ake. I think he is as wrong as he can be with his views on homosexuality, but he tries to express them based on his belief system. I agree with Joe, for example, about ake. I think he is as wrong as he can be with his views on homosexuality, but he tries to express them based on his belief system.

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Well, you see, respectful Big Mick, you start a thread that invites people to consider which of those among us might be "Pricks". So you want to make people more respectful by being disrespectful, huh? Your "respectful" mate Joe has suggested that I and several others should resort to shrinks (because we rattle him when we express disagreement with his somewhat deluded notions, not the least of which is his support for an out-and-out science-denying creationist). In this latest post you are supporting a rabid homophobe because you think he's being honest. Cor, that's all right then! Yet, in all this thread, neither you nor your supposed allies have had the balls to name names. Well I challenge you once and for all to name names. But be careful, old boy, because some of the names I suspect you might want to name would be very sorely misrepresented by your statement "Note how certain provocateurs continue to try and make it about people instead of ideas." Yes we attack people but we attack people who come here and drag the place down with their thoroughly nasty ideas. You only have to look at some of the people here that you're giving succour to in this thread to make you, I hope, feel rather uncomfortable about what you appear to be trying to do. You are bollocking right-minded people who call very nasty people names yet defending people with very nasty ideas. Hmm.