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Thread #154378   Message #3622274
Posted By: TheSnail
25-Apr-14 - 12:18 PM
Thread Name: Bacup Nuters and Racism
Subject: RE: Bacup Nuters and Racism
Jim Carroll
What the Firle people did was wrong
I know Jim. I said so myself.

which was my only point here
No it wasn't. You were convinced that it happened in Lewes (you read it in The Times) and by some sort of twisted logic you are still trying to hold "the good people of Lewes" responsible. In fact you have now extended the guilt to the entire administrative unit of Lewes District which seems a trifle arbitrary. You have stopped short of taking in the whole county which must be a relief to Eastbourne, Hastings, Battle, Robertsbridge and all the other towns and villages with bonfire societies in East Sussex.

I didn't say that the reasons made it acceptable. You seem to think they plucked the idea out of thin air. They did not. They had their reasons; they just made the wrong response to those reasons. Earlier you said "You mentioned "reasons" for the caravan burning - I would be fascinated to learn what they were." Now you refuse to contemplate the possibility. "No need for a trial. Guilty as Hell. You can tell by the look of them. String 'em up."

are you suggesting that because Miltown did it - it's ok in West(sic) Sussex - is that your "reason"?
No, I'm accusing you of double standards. When looking for examples of racism in modern society you ignored the incident on you own doorstep which caused real problems for a real family and went instead for a symbolic act which did no actual harm to anyone in an obscure East Sussex village and then tried to blame it on people who had nothing to do with it.

At least have a look at this article http://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/nov/16/raceintheuk.uknews. rest assured that it is hostile to Firle Bonfire Society and bonfire in general in fact, it seems to rather have it in for Sussex. It does, however, look at the whole issue.

The point I am trying to make or rather the question I am asking is what is the difference between blaming the the entire population of a town (now extended to an administrative district) for the actions of twelve people and blaming all Islam for the actions of the extremists? You continue to avoid answering.