I wouldn't know Michael. I have known a few lefties as you call them and consider them idealistic armchair socialists   Apart from the weird beard tree huggers of course.

Why do you consider my refusal to differentiate between religions "leftie?" Are you saying a local Muslim GP has more in common with terrorists than the old lady seeing him because she has problems kneeling pray in church these days?

If God botherers on this thread wish to differentiate between The Holy Q'ran and their bible, more fool them. Either can be used to get an army up, and both have such a track record.....