No real fear of that Akenaton, as there is no debate or discussion with either, they simply invent and make stuff up to support their rather ridiculous arguments then retreat behind a barrage of foul-mouthed unpleasantness when their falsehoods are torn to shreds. As stated previously neither Carroll or Musket would recognise the truth, logic or fact if all collectively jumped up and bit them on their arses.

What they lack totally is any sense of perspective, a classic example of this from Musket on this thread:

Keith A submits a link clearly showing official Hamas broadcasters in Gaza repeatedly putting words into the mouths of children who were little more than toddlers getting them to enthusiastically talk about them killing Jews when they got older. Musket's response was to state that Christianity was just as bad getting people to sing hymns such as "Jesus wants me for a sunbeam", "Onward Christian Soldiers" (adopted as by the Salvation Army IIRC) and "Fight the good fight". Absolutely ridiculous example of comparing apples to oranges.

"Jesus wants me for a sunbeam" - Original version by Nellie Talbot. A children's hymn - here is a sample, the lyrics for the second verse:

"Jesus wants me to be loving,
And kind to all I see;
Showing how pleasant and happy,
His little ones can be."

Rum F''k Musket how hateful can it get!!!! Doesn't it just inspire you to go out and kill people? Reading the lyrics through from start to finish reveals that it is a song with no reference to violence whatsoever.

"Onward Christian Soldiers" - No mention of death at all in the lyrics

"Fight the Good Fight" - Is about life not death.

But one thing you can consistently say about and depend upon with Musket - he does so much revel in making a complete and utter arse of himself.