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Thread #154376   Message #3627914
Posted By: Jim Carroll
24-May-14 - 03:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
"Are you serious Jim?!"
Who do you people think you are?
You ignore evidence by Amnesty, Human Rights Watch, eyewitnesses to massacres, Israeli soldiers, ex Israeli Secret Service heads..... and a whole host of other people who have stood out against Israeli fascism, and think you can cherry-pick and reject evidence to their terrorism as you see fit.
Between the gang of you, you drag up 'evidence' from Muslim Watch, White Supremacy, Zionist Gatestone, suspected Israeli war criminals...
Your entire case on Sabra/Shatila is based on Israel's claim that they didn't do it.
Israel is a terrorist state that has been protected from prosecution by over 100 U.S. vetoes.   
Who the **** do you thing you are?
Israel is a terrorist state - your sole defence of it is they say they didn't do it and that their puppet politicians haven't criticised them.
The Russian newspaper article is s straightforward report of Amnesty's statement on possible war crimes by Israel
The Kuala Lumpur findings have been widely accepted and reported
The main contents of the Guardian article have been removed for because the copyright has run out - the headlines state it all.
If you are going to take over David Irvine's char on behalf of Israeli atrocities, you are going to have to put more thought int it than this
Jim Carroll
HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH

This from the Guardian - in full:
By Inna Lazareva, Tel Aviv 9:07AM GMT 27 Feb 2014
Israel has reacted angrily to a report by Amnesty International which accused it of being "trigger happy," saying that the study showed bias and a "skewed logic".
Amnesty has accused Israel of a "callous disregard for human life" after it documented the killing of dozens of Palestinian civilians in the West Bank over the past three years.
The 87-page report, entitled "Trigger-happy: Israel's use of excessive force in the West Bank" was published on Thursday and details what it described as "excessive force to stifle dissent and freedom of expression" since the beginning of 2011. The report documents the killing of 45 Palestinians and wounding of thousands "who did not appear to be posing a direct and immediate threat to life."
In the report, Amnesty International goes as far as to accuse Israel of "war crimes and other serious violations of international law" against Palestinians. The report notes that more Palestinians living in the West Bank had been killed last year than in 2012 and 2011 combined, and said that more than 8,000 Palestinians - including 1,500 children - have been wounded by rubber bullets and tear gas since 2011.
"The frequency and persistence of arbitrary and abusive force against peaceful protesters in the West Bank by Israeli soldiers and police officers- and the impunity enjoyed by perpetrators - suggests that it is carried out as a matter of policy," said Philip Luther, Middle East and North Africa director at Amnesty International.
Israeli officials have heavily criticised Amnesty's report as a "public relations stunt" "removed from reality", "unverifiable" and inaccurate.
Daniel Taub, Israel's Ambassador to the UK, said: "Amnesty's obsessive focus on Israel, and its refusal to recognise the very real threat posed by deliberately-orchestrated violent demonstrations, suggests an agenda that has more to do with politics than human rights."
The Israeli Embassy in London said in a statement "Amnesty is in need of an urgent reality check".
Between 2011 and 2013, there were 247 people injured by rock throwing, while "scores of Israelis have been victimised by shootings, stabbings, and other forms of terror, none of which Amnesty sees fit to mention in its report", noted the Embassy.
"The report brings together carefully selected, unverifiable and often contradictory accounts from clearly politically-motivated individuals, which it then reports as unquestioned facts", said the Israeli Embassy.
Hours after the report was published, Israeli forces killed a 24-year-old man that they were seeking to arrest, after he refused to turn himself in. Soldiers in the West Bank town of Bir Zeit bulldozed part of Muataz Washaha's house after a standoff lasting several hours, and opened fire. His body was found shortly after.
An Israeli military statement said that Washaha had been wanted for "suspected terror activity" and that the forces, which later found an AK-47 assault rifle in the house, were operating under the premise that he was armed.