If you have a pet dog Dave, I suggest you get him or her to debate with Goofus. Far more fulfilling all round.

"The Guardian and New Statesman don't print toadying journalism." Well done Keith. That's my boy!

Mind you, it's normally ignorant fools saying that about The Daily M*il or Daily Torygraph. Grauniad readers tend to be a cut above usually, on the basis they take comment with a pinch of salt. They may revise their editorial policy if they see people actually believing what they read and calling comment hard evidence. After all, even editors have to sleep at night.