I fail to see how normal people are debating with these bigoted old men with no concept whatsoever of whom or what they address.

I saw active service in Iraq, Afghanistan and over a couple of neighbouring borders. I, as many others went wondering the degree to which we could relate village tribal law with the mindsets of the student doctors we trained with back in England from these countries.

Not one bit.

Just because an ill educated old man invokes the Q'ran to justify his judgement is no different to calling a Church of England vicar for a mass murderer in Alabama who says Jesus told him to go on a killing spree.

The governments of some of these countries, whilst attempting to show themselves in control, are not. Sadly, some use the lawlessness of regions as a bargaining tool for western support in propping up their own regime.

Out of interest, there is nothing new in many of these atrocities, just heightened awareness. Not a bad thing in itself but it does tend to feed Col Bigot Retd and members of his bridge club.