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Thread #154345   Message #3630991
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
07-Jun-14 - 02:07 AM
Thread Name: BS: the demise of the boring thread
Subject: RE: BS: the demise of the boring thread
Well, that was nicely laid out....but the fact is, that there are those who purport that, these theories are indeed fact..and they are not known to be such...sorta like WMD's in Iraq...'strong evidence', and 'most probably's', don't quite necessarily make it true...BUT...at least you stated your position...

Now, as far as me answering you, I was not 'lying through my teeth'...however, I was mostly referring to my posts with you, and I'm sure that if you didn't go back and research it, you would have not even remembered Amos's post..I didn't. So I checked it out, and yes, he did mention it before I..I just didn't see it...(not sure you did either). I'm surprised that you weren't discussing it from Amos's post till after mine...that said, Amos's post, nor any of yours, mentioned the 'receptors' and hormonal influences on Xq28, which HAS turned out to be true...(as referred to in "..greater influences..")...and Amos's study is from 1995. Still, nothing has been shown to say that it is strictly genetic, or anyone has found the 'gene'...fair enough?

...as to, "These are physiologically based differences—as is sexual orientation. We have laws against discrimination of this sort."

If the 'physiologically based differences' were 'genetically based' you might have a point...but there is no direct evidence of that....AND, hormonal influences can, and do make 'physiologically based differences'...as in other areas, as well.

Now, the question remains, 'Do you really believe this?:
D.F. "Sexual orientation is NOT a matter of choice."

If you answer, 'Yes, I believe that'...and a person CAN'T change, then what's this shit about 'dirty little secrets'???
He was either having a hetero-traditional family, while being a homosexual, which by definition is a contradiction, or he CHANGED, (which he didn't), and you say they CAN'T....or your prized 'dirty little secret' is totally false, and just vindictive bullcrap ...which I've told you repeatedly..every time you've used that bullshit threat...when you've run out of excuses and spins.
Think about it for a moment, and even you would agree!(and I'm being 'generously kind')

What I found 'telling', is that when YOU found someone you suspected of being homosexual, you called it 'dirty', as you referred to it!
...Sorta a 'Freudian Slip' there, Chief.

Which brings up a whole other matter, as to why you'd think it that way....but that's for another moment....

GfS